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Our fourth Books podcast features Jules Pretty, author and professor of environment and society, University of Essex, in conversation with Times ÖйúAƬ¡¯s books editor, Karen Shook. They discuss The Sea Inside by Philip Hoare, which Professor Pretty recently reviewed for THE, as well as Professor Pretty¡¯s own writings, his walk along the coast of East Anglia, and a Victorian tip covered with toothbrushes and human bones.