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Our second Books podcast features Robert Eaglestone, professor of contemporary literature and thought at Royal Holloway, University of London, in conversation with Times ÖйúAƬ¡¯s books editor, Karen Shook. They discuss Saul Friedl?nder¡¯s book Franz Kafka: The Poet of Shame and Guilt, which Professor Eaglestone recently reviewed for THE. The conversation also considers the relationship between historians and literary scholars; the importance and challenges of Holocaust study; and Professor Eaglestone¡¯s own work. Recorded on 1 May, 2013.